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18th-Oct-2008 04:45 pm
as about the discussion of politics:

It's beginning to bother me that so many Dem supporters (party members or not) are using such terminology as "repugs" or "rethugs."

Yes, the GOP supporters do the same stuff.  I understand why the temptation is there, and share it all too often.  I'll even agree that they started it, and they do it worse (or is that "better")  (Sorry Republicans, but such is my perception of how Public Discourse has disintegrated in my adult life.)

It's just that I remember a time in this country when two people could disagree about politics, and discuss things across parties, without all this heat, name-calling and hatred. 

I'm feeling like the proverbial mother who says "I don't care who started it!  Both of you stop it!

I, for one, will henceforth watch my language, so that I clean it of any such references.  Would you like to join me?

18th-Oct-2008 10:26 pm (UTC) - New Friend
I spotted you over on sleigh's journal and added you to my Friends list.

I've been talking a lot about politics during the presidential election. Occasionally I enjoy a good bit of punny namecalling, but in general, I prefer to let my opponents hang themselves with their own rope. I mean, sheesh, it's not like there's a shortage of ghastly facts. I can just say, "Read the doom," and link to an article.
18th-Oct-2008 11:01 pm (UTC)
I'm on a McCain / Palin mailing list, in fact, where I encouraged them to do just that. So I think I'm already on board. :)
19th-Oct-2008 12:32 am (UTC)
Hear Hear!

Of course, it would be easier to get regular folks to do this if we could get the "news" people and politicians to do the same. But that's no reason to not try.
19th-Oct-2008 01:32 am (UTC)
Listen to the news shows at all, and you'll notice that the rightwing talkers always say "Democrat Party". Not "Democratic", which is the correct name. This isn't ignorance. It's a deliberate slur, a denial that there's anything small-d democratic about the Party. It's as petty as it is insulting, and I rarely if ever hear them called on it.
19th-Oct-2008 04:17 pm (UTC)
I know. Coded messages in talk radio (and its TV versions) are ubiquitous. And conservative outlets outnumber others by a large margin.

All I'm saying is 1) Why can't we just let it slip off -- and it would cease working, and 2) Why do we retaliate tit for tat?

I just don't see any of it doing anything good for Public Debate.
19th-Oct-2008 12:56 am (UTC)
I know people who use the term "Xtian" or "Christianist" to distinguish the people who call themselves Christians but whose actions are pretty much antithetical to the preachings of Jesus or the message of the Bible. It would be wrong to call them Christians while condemning what they do and say, because that lumps in the sincere and decent Christians with the hypocrites and rogues.

I believe terms like "Rethuglican" are used to make that same distinction: "We're not talking about all the people who vote for Republican candidates or about the sincere and decent Republican officials, but about the thugs who have been using the Republican Party for the last several decades to advance a theocratic and oligarchic agenda."
19th-Oct-2008 04:22 pm (UTC)
I hadn't thought that folks might be using the bastardized version of a title (repug vs republican, ex) to distinguish between -- simplistically put -- "Good republican" and "Bad republican."

That's an interesting point.

However, the fact that I didn't think of it -- and I consider myself smarter and more aware than the average bear -- might be an indication that it's not working that way. Instead, all that comes across is a wide-brush slap. I will entertain the possibility that it didn't occur to me because ever since the DemocRAT idiocy, I've assumed malice from such things. I don't think the Altwater/Rove legacy will be a highlight of our political trajectory.

So, here we all are, caught in the cycle, willingly or not. How does it stop?

Stop the (political) world. I want to get off.
19th-Oct-2008 01:02 am (UTC)
I think I'm already on board. Other than calling Clinton's Nevada campaign manager a thief after he refused to pay for his dinner at a fund raiser, I don't think I've done any name calling.
19th-Oct-2008 02:06 am (UTC)
Actually, I'm not sure that would qualify as namecalling under the circumstances. Although I suppose "deadbeat" might have been more accurate...
19th-Oct-2008 04:24 pm (UTC)
The real difference, of course, is that whether you are name-calling or not, you are specifying a particular individual for a specific transgression.

I'm objecting to the judging an entire (large) class as a monolithic Badness with clever but hurtful jibes.

No matter how you slice it, that's prejudice. Plain and simple. I try to fight it, and hate it when I fall prey to it.
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